☮♡♡مســابقة المرأة فى الإســلام وأخلاق سيد الأنــام - الموقف الثالث _ الصلاة

**بوادي اميريكا** · 02-01-2013, 05:07 AM

مشكله مسوووكه ..لان انا مع البنت الاجنبيه
ومؤيده لها ميه الميه
ان الله يحب ان تؤتي رخصه كما يحب ان تؤدي طاعته
والدين يسرا لا عسرا ..
والمسافر له رخصه ..
كان بامكانه ان ينتظر علي ما الطياره وضعها افضل و لا يستجوب حزام الامان و يصلي ..
هي مثل ما قالت هي ..
put up a show when they pray

**mayaaa** · 02-01-2013, 06:22 AM

Jessy: Have heard about this man of the Delta airlines
Nabila: yes, it is hilarious
Jessy : I wonder why Muslims have to put up a show when they pray!!! I mean praying is a very spiritual thing and it has to be done silently... It is like something between you and your God why do you have to let others know that you are praying

Why couldn't he just be seated and pray when he gets home instead.... It is not that urgent

I know that the Captain's reaction represented ignorance at its finest. , constant fear of anything that is slightly different but couldn't the man avoid this horror that he caused? what he was thinking of, this is absurd somebody praying, and of all places, in an airplane aisle!

If praying is so important to him why did he book a flight in praying time!!! He should have booked it later or earlier
i agree that he shouldn't breake the rule to pray ....and of course he can pray some time later like when the captain allow to the passenger to unlock the seat beltand use some explanation to the other about what he attend to do ....
it's not wise to just unlock it and pray between the seat row
but he definitely can pray in his seat but show or not we have to bray and praying on time is the best to do ....in the plane or not you should do it but without braking the ruls ...about how we pray and how we do it !it have nothing to do with others its how its we did not came up with it we can't chang it if you don't like it you don't like it ....but as you see not everybody smart enough to take the good design .

**mayaaa** · 02-01-2013, 06:27 AM

بوادي ياعمري مافيه رخصه لتضييع الصلاه الرسول كان يصلي على دابته ويقصر ويجمع هاي الرخصه لكن عدم الصلاة مش رخصه تضييع وتساهل بس كمان يمكن للانسان بمكانه يتوجه للقبله ويصلي الموقف مبالغ فيه بس فرضنا انه حصل جوابي فوق بيقدر يصلي بمكانه او بين الكراسي بس لما يكون مسموح وامان ومش غلط يعطي الناس ون هيد اب شو بده يعمل لان بجد العالم صار عندها برانويد من الملتحين والمصلين والاسلام الشرح المسبق بيخفف من حدة الموضوع ومن خوف العالم منا

**tuta.** · 02-01-2013, 09:41 AM

Jessy: Have heard about this man of the Delta airlines
Nabila: yes, it is hilarious
Jessy : I wonder why Muslims have to put up a show when they pray!!! I mean praying is a very spiritual thing and it has to be done silently... It is like something between you and your God why do you have to let others know that you are praying

I totally agree with you, but i feel the article in the papers is exagerated not just a bit, but lot, i mean come on, emergency landing, and for what? a salat that propably lasted a couple of.minutes?? i feel its done deliberatly to make us MUSLIMS look bad and destroy our image in front if the world, its not enough the whole world fears us for stuff we didn.t do, now this! come on get real.

Why couldn't he just be seated and pray when he gets home instead.... It is not that urgent

IF this was true. HE could have done that, but suppose he was already praying when the seat belt sign came on, he already started and him ignoring the stewardess and captian well its because when we pray we are standing in the hands of GOD and we cant stop the salat or talk saying anything other than the prayer, but he could have done a motion with his hand telling then to wait, for salat in air is supposed to be short, its part of the rules when you are travelling yoi can shorten your salat from 4 parts to 2 and you can do two salats together, so the whole salat wouldnt last more than 5 min if not less, beleiving the article i would have to beleive the guy read the whole Quran during his salat which is unbeleivable, what a time to chose and do that right??

I know that the Captain's reaction represented ignorance at its finest. , constant fear of anything that is slightly different but couldn't the man avoid this horror that he caused? what he was thinking of, this is absurd somebody praying, and of all places, in an airplane aisle!

actually God told us we can pray anywhere and everywhere as long as the place is clean and not poluted with human or animal waste, even if its airplane isle, seat or even a corner.
WHY he didnt wait till he got home well maybe by the time he gets home its time for the following salat, you see our prayer is five times a day and our religion tells us to pray the salat on time, we need drop everything in our hands and do it, God gave us 24 hours in a day thats 1440 minutes, we cant give him half hour total for salat?? thats why its important to do it on time as conditions permit, if the belt sign was on before salat times then i would wait till its off then pray, but if it started after i started praying well the seat belt can wait and the stewardess.and captain of all people kniw that they start the sign of swat belt at least five minutes before landing starts. . SO unless the plane is exploding then yeah i.m gona continue my salat that will take another minute or two thank you very much.

If praying is so important to him why did he book a flight in praying time!!! He should have booked it later or earlier

you are starting to sound like the pilot. HONEY dont believe everything you hear or see or read in the media. . . WE all know who controls it and what agenda they serve. . THIS story is so not true. .

NOW how about we have some ice cream???

**mayaaa** · 02-01-2013, 11:37 AM

i totally agree with you tota plus the prying setuation is so
powerless
asmall child can ckic hem from behind he is already surrender .....and what after they landed and investigated and found out he is innocent and did nothing no wise captain wold do that

*** شهدوده *** · 02-01-2013, 04:30 PM

باسم الله ماشاء الله مسوكة الموقف الثالث رائع جدا
والصلاة واجبة على كل شخص وفي أي مكان
لكن أنا مع موقف البنت جيسي ، كان يصلي في مكانه من غير أحراج أحد وعمل شوشرة على الكل
الدين بسيط جدا ولا يجب التعقيد
بهذا التصرف يأخذون فكرة سيئة عن المسلمين
وننتظر رد الأخوات الغاليات في الأمر إن شاء الله

**tuta.** · 02-01-2013, 07:43 PM

EXACTLY maya!!!! when he is praying he is weak could care less what.s happening around him and hey what happenee to the US marshal on the plane? where did he go? he could have easily controled the situation.
ﻗﺎﻝ ﺟﻴﻮﺵ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻟﻢ و ﻃﻴﺎﺭﻩ ﺣﺮﺑﻴﻪ,
ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﻛﺄﻧﻪ ﺍﻟﺤﻴﺶ ﺑﺎﻟﻌﺎﻟﻢ ﻗﺎﻋﺪ ﺑﻴﻘﺼﻊ ﻗﻤﻞ و ﻟﺎ ﻋﻨﺪﻩ ﺷﻐﻠﻪ و ﻟﺎ ﻣﺸﻐﻠﻪ و ﺑﻴﺴﺘﻨﻮﺍ ﻭﺍﺣﺪ ﺗﺎﻓﻬﺔ ﻳﻘﻮﻝ ﺍﻟﺤﻘﻮﻧﻲ ﻓﻲ ﺭﺟﺎﻝ ﺑﻂﻴﺎﺭﺗﻲ ﻭﺍﻗﻒ ﻣﺶ ﺿﺎﺭﺭ ﺣﺪﺍ و ﻟﺎ ﻣﺄﺫﻱ ﺣﺪﺍ ﻏﻴﺮ ﻧﻔﺴﻪ و ﻣﺶ ﺭﺍﺿﻲ ﻳﻘﻌﺪ ﻋﺸﺎﻥ ﺑﻴﺼﻠﻲ ﻓﻴﺮﻱ ﺑﺎﺛﻴﺘﻴﻚ!!!
و ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﺍﻱ ﻫﻮﺏ ﻳﺎ ﻣﺴﻮﻛﻪ ﺍﻟﻤﻮﻗﻒ ﻣﻦ ﺗﺄﻟﻴﻔﻚ و ﻣﺶ ﻗﺼﻪ ﺣﻘﻴﻘﻴﻪ ﻟﺎﻧﻪ ﺍﺫﺍ ﺣﻘﻴﻘﻴﻪ ﻣﺼﻴﺒﻪ!!!

**صاحبة الـ@ـسك** · 03-01-2013, 09:04 AM

مشكورين يا حلوين على الردود وبإنتظار البقية
القصة حقيقية يا بنات وقعت من فترة هنا فى دنفر بس ما أعتقدش دلتا إيرلاين كانت شركة تانية مش فاكراها والأسئلة مش من خيالى الأسئلة كانت تعليقات القراء بتوع الموقع اللى كانوا متغاظين وناس كتيرة شتمت وسبت فينا و و والتخلف والجها وخلافه وناس تانيين برضه شتموا فى الثقافة الأمريكية اللى بقيت من ساعة أحداث سبتمبر بيخافوا من خيال أى حد مسلم

**tuta.** · 03-01-2013, 09:46 AM

ﻟﻠﺎﺳﻒ ﺍﻟﺨﺒﺮ ﻣﺜﻞ ﻣﺎ ﻗﻠﺖ
EXAGERATED
ﻟﺘﺸﻮﻳﻪ ﺻﻮﺭﻩ ﺍﻟﻤﺴﻠﻤﻴﻦ و ﺍﻟﺤﻤﺪ ﻟﻠﻪ ﻟﻠﺎﻥ ﻣﺎ ﻓﻲ ﻫﺒﻮﻁ.ﺍﺿﻂﺮﺍﺭﻱ ﺑﺴﺒﺒﻨﺎ ﻟﻜﻦ ﺣﺼﻞ و ﻃﺮﻭﺍ ﻳﻬﻮﺩﻱ ﺑﺴﺒﺐ ﺻﻠﺎﺗﻪ و ﺭﻓﻀﻪ ﻟﻠﺠﻠﻮﺱ ﺳﺎﻋﻪ ﺍﻗﻠﺎﻉ ﺍﻟﻂﻴﺎﺭﻩ.

ﺍﻟﺨﺒﺮ ﻣﻦ ﻣﻠﺎﻡ ﺷﻬﻮﺩ ﺍﻟﻌﻴﺎﻥ ﺍﻟﻠﻲ ﺍﻫﻤﻠﺖ ﺷﻬﺎﺩﺗﻬﻢ ﻋﻤﺪﺍ ﻛﺎﻥ ﻳﻘﻮﻝ و ﻳﻌﻴﺪ ﺍﻧﻪ ﺑﺤﺎﺟﻪ ﻳﺮﻭﺡ ﺩﻭﺭﻩ ﺍﻟﻤﻴﺎﻩ ﻣﺶ ﻳﺼﻠﻲ ﺍﻟﻨﺎﺱ ﻳﻤﻜﻦ ﺧﺎﻓﺖ ﻣﻨﻪ ﺍﻛﻤﻨﻪ ﺷﻜﻠﻪ ﻋﺮﺑﻲ ﺍﺗﻔﻀﻟﻮﺍﻭﺍﻟﺨﺒﺮ

؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

ﺭﺩﻱ ﻓﻮﻕ ﻣﺎ ﺑﻐﻴﻴﺮ ﻓﻴﻪ ﺷﻲ ﻟﺎﻧﻪ ﺍﻟﺨﺒﺮ ﻏﻴﺮ ﺻﺤﻴﺢ و ﺍﻥ ﻃﻠﻊ ﻓﻌﻠﺎ ﺻﺤﻴﺢ و ﻣﺴﻠﻢ ﻋﻤﻞ ﻫﻠﻴﻠﻪ ﺑﻘﻮﻝ ﻟﻬﺎﻟﻤﺴﻠﻢ ﻳﺎ ﺍﺑﻨﻲ ﺍﻟﺪﻳﻦ ﻳﺴﺮ و ﻟﻴﺲ ﺑﻌﺴﺮ ﺍﻧﺖ و ﺍﻣﺜﺎﻟﻚ ﻣﻦ ﺷﻮﻫﺘﻮﺍ ﺻﻮﺭﻩ ﺍﻟﺎﺳﻠﺎﻡ ﺍﻣﺎﻡ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻟﻢ.

**سحابة الوفاء** · 03-01-2013, 03:46 PM

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

إنَّ الصَّلاَةَ كَانَتْ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ كِتَابًا مَّوْقُوتًا

worship at fixed hours hath been enjoined on the believers

قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : ( أول ما يحاسب به العبد يوم القيامة عن الصلاة
، فإن صلحت ، صلح سائر عمله ، وإن فسدت ، فسد سائر عمله

prophet muhammad peace be up pn him said

The first thing about which a person will be
questioned on the Day of Judgment is prayer. If it is found to be
sound all his other actions will be sound as well. If his prayer
is not sound all his remaining actions would be spoiled.

I agree with

jessy,we do not have to put up a show or bother
others when we pray,the right choice is to pray in
his seat, our faith is easy,so we
do not have to make it complicated

for us and others,
a Muslim may pray almost anywhere,
such as in fields, offices, factories and universities

with our good manners we invite people to Islam

**shrwet** · 03-01-2013, 08:29 PM

Jessy : I wonder why Muslims have to put up a show when they pray!!! I mean praying is a very spiritual thing and it has to be done silently... It is like something between you and your God why do you have to let others know that you are praying
jessy you are right that pray is arelation between human and his God .It's not ashow muslims can pray silently .
It doesn't matter to let others show us when we pray.
Why couldn't he just be seated and pray when he gets home instead.... It is not that urgent
I think the flight is long ,so he should pray it's urgent but our religion is easy and not comlicated when we travel we can shortten pray and collect 2praysin one and at the same time instead of to be four raka it 'll be two raka and also we can pray setting in our place

I know that the Captain's reaction represented ignorance at its finest. , constant fear of anything that is slightly different but couldn't the man avoid this horror that he caused? what he was thinking of, this is absurd somebody praying, and of all places, in an airplane aisle!

as i tell u before this man 's manner is bad because he give others bad reaction of islam .Islam is very easy and he can avoid all of these things if he use his brain or thinking he can pray quietly in his seat without any one feel him .

If praying is so important to him why did he book a flight in praying time!!! He should have booked it later or earlier

the flight may be so long it may be spend 12 or 14 hours so in this time he should pray more 4 times

ATlast Iwant to tell you an important thing in every society and in every place there are good and bad people and there are some people can think and others can't so we cant take this situation that it's common with all muslims

**mayaaa** · 03-01-2013, 10:24 PM

توتا اللنك ماطلع عندي هو مسلم والا يهودي؟ بعدين اذا تو الطياره بتقلع يعني وقت صلاه ابدن حبكت الا الا هسه مش فاهمه والله انا فكرت مسوكه هيك اخترعت الموقف بس عشان نشوف شو نرد وبدي اقوللكم الطيار اله حريت طرد اي مسافر حتى بدون ما يعمل اشي من حقه اشي مش منطقي او غيره من حق الطيار اذا مش عاجبه مسافر يطرده وبيبقوا بيتفاهموا معاه بره 00000لان مره كان معي اولادي وكنا مسافرين من الاردن وكان فيه تاخير واوفر بوكد وخربطه لما وصلت القيت كنت اخر وحده واولادي بالمره جوعانين معهم فرنش فرايز وتعبانين فالمضيف قعدنا بجنب بعض وعلى طول وحده نامت ووحده عجمت عالفرايز واقعه من الجوع ياعمري واحد من المقاعد مش النا المضيف قرر يبدلنا من حال باله لما اجا صاحب المقعد حاول بهدوء يفهمه ان البنت غفيانه وبيبي خليها عند امها وانت خذ مكانها بدون ما يشوف وين المكان رفض وقال ما دخلني بدي اقعد مطرحي او بكرسيي الاصلي حاول المضيف يكون لطيف معاه وهو ابدن وصار يصيح فالمضيف قاله اما بتبدل او بتنزل فيه ناس كثير تحت بس بدهم فرصه يسافروا ... استغربت انه صراحه يقدر يجبره لما سالت قالولي الئيار بيقدر يقول انا نفسيا مش مرتاح لهالانسان وبقدر اكون معه بنفس الطياره وينزله وبيرجعوله فلوسه ...... ف عند الطيارات وكلشي جائز يعني صح غريبه عجيبه بس هيها صارت معي بدون صلاه ولا اشي بس لان الرجال قلل ادب وعلا صوته كان ممكن يطردوه بره الطياره انا مالي حق بالكرسي بس كمان كانت ازمه مش طبيعيه يعني همه اعطوني كراسي متفرقه على اساس بتنحل جوا الطياره بنتي سادوب سنتين مش معقول تعقد باخر الطياره وانا باولها لازم حدى يضحي ولو ان الطرسي بجنب شباك والا بجنب اشي مميز كان قلت بس خلص عناد ...

**MUM** · 03-01-2013, 10:47 PM

يعني بصراحة انصدمت لما عرفت ان الموقف حقيقي
معقول؟؟؟
المهم نروح للاسئلة

Jessy: Have heard about this man of the Delta airlines
Nabila: yes, it is hilarious
Jessy : I wonder why Muslims have to put up a show when they pray!!! I mean praying is a very spiritual thing and it has to be done silently... It is like something between you and your God why do you have to let others know that you are praying
actually you are right Jessy,praying is very spiritual thing
and when we pray we feel like we are b/w allah's hands

Why couldn't he just be seated and pray when he gets home instead.... It is not that urgent

I know that the Captain's reaction represented ignorance at its finest. , constant fear of anything that is slightly different but couldn't the man avoid this horror that he caused? what he was thinking of, this is absurd somebody praying, and of all places, in an airplane aisle!
If praying is so important to him why did he book a flight in praying time!!! He should have booked it later or earlier

look what he did is not right ,and also he can not post pone his pray at the same time
but , he can wail until he can release his seat belt
or just pray in his seat
coz allah permit us to pray as we sitting in case we are travelling or if some one is unwell
also allah permit us to make our pray shorter if we are travelling for long journey

**صاحبة الـ@ـسك** · 04-01-2013, 10:36 PM

يا جماعة الموقف حصل فعلا لكن فيه شاهد عيان زى ما بتقول توتا قال الراجل كان عايز يروح الحمام مش أكتر إزاى بقى قلبوها صلاة مش عارفة ... ومحدش قال على حد علمى إنه يهودي ... ممكن يكون حتى بوذى واللا أى هباب تانى المشكلة خطيرة إن كل الناس اللى ردت فى الأول سلمت إنه مسلم!!!! وقالو هم دول المسلمين اللى واللى ... لكن طبعا فيه ناس عاقلة وقالت وإيه يعنى لما يصلى لكن طبعا مش بخرق القوانين .... ما علينا الفكرة إنهم فاكرين صلاتنا مثل صلاتهم جنب السرير وخلاص ويمكن كمان فيهم مش بيصلوا ... ما يعرفوش إن صلاتنا بمواقيت ولازم نقوم بيها حتى لو على سرير بالمستشفى حتى ولو نصلى بعينينا الصلاة عندنا واجبة واجبة واجبة ومفيش فيها أعذار